![]() Simply put, in Oregon on those occasions when the sand is dry, you need to displace more volume of sand to displace the same amount of weight that we can in Glamis with less paddle. Now why this is important is that when you’re climbing in sand with paddle tires you’re displacing weight, you are NOT getting traction as most people describe it as. What I mean by that is that if you take a cubic foot of coastal Oregon sand with zero moisture, and you compare that with a cubic foot of sand from Glamis and with zero moisture you’ll find the sand at Glamis weights more. Second, the sand in Oregon has a lighter specific gravity when moisture is taken out of the equation. Wet sand doesn’t require paddle tires the way dry sand does when it comes to climbing. First, do to the amount of rain you get up there, you could get away with less than a paddle tire more often. Your area of dunning is unlike the southwest in several ways. I’ll pass on some understanding I have regarding your question that really hasn’t been touched on yet. I will call about the paddles, thanks again! It makes sense that snow is heavier than sand.just surprised me, but those extended fenders look funny to me. I understand about the weight of the Baha's, that is part of the reason we were looking at paddles, there is a lot of rubber on those tires to make them heavy! I am used to being belted with sand on the quads, but was surprised how much snow came in the cab of the cat. I think the dealer just pooped around the 3rd parking lot.big difference as you guys who ride there know! and there are some really big dunes in Windy Bay. ![]() (didn't see any wildcats at all) Although the dealer here in eastern WA swears we will never need paddles, he does not ride like us.this will not be for drag racing, just want to get up the hills and out of the soft stuff. Thanks for all the help! hmmm who tows the tower.the puma? -) yeah this is a new move for us from quads to side by side.we have seen some sbs set ups do very well, but more stuck in our last trips to the dunes. Towing will add to belt stress, and I know an R isn't really heavy, but just take that into account. It seems to be more common on the '12s, but the '13s do it also. Not sure if you have a '12, or '13, but read up on here about the belts breaking. My only advice would be to be careful about towing. I would try about 5.5, maybe as high as 6 psi. My friend has the Baja Cross, and did pretty well in Glamis, you just have to air them down. Comes into the cabin, and everywhere else, to me it's no big deal. Those guys will know, and hook you up! Sand is going to get everywhere no matter what you do. I heard that Skat had a problem with the last batch and I don't know if they have sent out new paddles yet. ![]() They have both types, and give good advice. Give Fullerton Sand Sports a shout, ask for Joe, or Dave. I believe the wheel rubs on either the knuckle, or caliber. I know you can get a 12" in the rear, but not the front. I believe they are an 8 or 9 paddle rear. A lot of the members here run Skat Traks which are also a good paddle, and way cheaper. I really like them, but they are expensive. I have STU Blasters with 16 paddles 75% comp cut, and STU Rzrs up front. ![]() Never been to Winchester Bay, I ride in Glamis, and I've heard the sand is different. Needing paddles, and wanting them are 2 different animals. My guys ride 250R's and I will be the chase vehicle, towing them home when they break.so I gotta get up to the tree shots! And has anyone tried 12" wheels with any success, and if so what backspace works? Any advise would be greatly appreciated. My question is do you guys use paddles on the rear, if so how many paddles? And what do you use on the front for traction that does not throw sand in your face? We wear helmets and goggles, so we are not getting a windshield. We are picking up our cat next week, it has ITP Baha Cross XP tires (27X14) on it from dealer on the stock wheels (demo), we test drove the cat in 2' of soft melting snow on a track around the dealership, and while we were very impressed going thru the deep snow and the whoops, we were not so impressed with all the snow coming into the cab.does the sand pour into the cab a lot in the dunes? We will be riding mostly in the dunes, and although the dealer said he went everywhere he wanted in the sand, we ride more aggressively and go up the big dunes in Winchester Bay.
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